Jordan Gruber is one of the authors of "Your Symphony Of Selves" and joins us to discuss how we all have multiple selves, not a single self.
Some of the topics we explore in this episode include an in-depth look at The Health Selves Model in comparison and contrast to The Single Self Assumption; why we mistakenly assume multiple selves to be pathological; how mental health is being in the right mind (self/selves) as the right time; and how we can start applying the healthy selves model into our lives today.
We also talk about Monotheismâs influence on the single self assumptionââthe single god assumptionâ; how Buddishmâs noself and interdependence relates to multiple selves; the difference between multiple selves and Jungian archetypes/autonomous complexes; how Sigmund Freud helped The Single Self Assumption dominate the western mind; and how the very origins of Freudâs model of the mind might be in the gaslighting of sexual abuse.
Furthermore, we also explore psychedelic journeying and healing from a healthy selves model; how we might understand the effects of psychedelics on the ego, if there is no such thing as an ego; as well as all of reality being fractal iterations of various wholistic expressions of cosmic multiplicity while debating the validity of The Essential Self, Self Energy, and our ability to live in relationship to âUltimate Realityâ. And, of course, more. Enjoy.
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Episode Breakdown
- (0:00) Opening
- (1:53) Overture
- (6:42) Patron Thanks | support the show!
- (8:03) Interview begins | Jamesâ thoughts on Your Symphony Of Selves book
- (10:09) Why multiple selves can be very confronting
- (12:07) How we came to see multiple selves as being pathological | and why multiplicity is normal
- (17:40) Switching into younger/healthier selves in our aging, dying time, or Alzheimer's disease
- (23:43) How Sigmund Freud helped The Single Self Assumption dominate the western mind
- (26:31) The origins of Freudâs model of the mind might have be in the gaslighting of sexual abuse
- (32:37) Jung: the difference between multiple selves and archetypes/autonomous complexes
- (37:15) Monotheismâs influence on the single self assumption; âthe single god assumptionâ?
- (43:23) How Buddishmâs noself and interdependence relates to multiple selves
- (49:51) Can a noself identity be a defensive compensation?
- (58:07) Centering our selves, without a central self
- (1:04:12) What about âIâ?
- (1:09:49) Debating the validity of The Essential Self, Self Energy, and our ability to live in relationship to âUltimate Realityâ
- (1:19:06) Spiritual bypassing by evading the realities of relational life
- (1:27:02) All of reality is fractal iterations of various wholistic expressions of cosmic multiplicity
- (1:30:26) Psychedelic journeying and healing from a healthy selves model
- (1:39:31) Developing your âpsychedelic journey selfâ | Interviews with Christopher Bache
- (1:41:38) Never do a psychedelic journey unless all selves are on board
- (1:43:02) Considering the effects of psychedelics on the ego, if there is no such thing as an ego
- (1:50:33) Why we need to give up on having big definite theories
- (1:56:10) Donât force selves into integration or try to get rid of selves
- (1:59:24) The Single Soul Assumption?
- (2:03:04) How to start applying healthy selves model into your life today
- (2:10:11) Follow-up links and contact info
- (2:12:51) Outro
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