28 | Roger Penrose on Spacetime, Consciousness, and the Universe
Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
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The Hard Problem Versus the Easy Problem of Consciousness
David Wheeler: Do you think that this way of thinking about quantum wave function collapse in the brain would help us understand the process of experience, the first person's subjective view?Wheeler: I have this short discussion with David Chalmers. He was complaining because I was saying basically, the view that Stuart and I have is that whenever one of these collapse processes takes place, that's where the state decides to be one or the other. You see, but we call that as always accompanied by a moment of proto-consciousness. It doesn't have any purpose at that level, but it's the thing out of which consciousness is built. That's what it's a point of view,
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