Hillman Curtis was one of the first designers to really be serious about the business side of what we do. He ran his own agency for a really long time and worked with clients like Adobe, I think, Yahoo,. Some museums in New York. One of my favorite videos he did was about evolving yourself as a designer. And it's one of my favorite kind of inspirational videos to this day. Sarah: Let's talk about life altering experiences and get into your transformation.