How Do People Find You on Instagram?

"It's not about pill ing the passport. It's about doing something that you love with people that you love, and then being really present in that experience," Shawn says. "I don't do facebook, but doinstegram, which is a c to sum s e a, the number two, s u m." He also has his own company web sight called 's two s x dot com' The full interview can be heard on this week's Overland Journal podcast at 8 p.m. ET/PT.