Zachary Zachary: The arbitrum announcement was not only the launch of the arbitrum Dow that made everyone very excited, but the idea of multiple arbitrum chains being built in a stack. He says there is some particularly when it comes to layer three chains, arbitrum or bitchains, there is the ability for these things to talk together a little more natively. But he also points out one thing people miss and what this show actually highlights is that's looking at a very, very narrow bridging example with ZK rollups. When you want to reach past that, say to get to the cause or ecosystem, we're going to need interoperability solution that don't have

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