Sophia: Side hustles don't even have to necessarily be things that you're committed to for a long time. I think the best businesses really do start as side Hustles that you just genuinely wanted to learn about something like Nathan Barry's convert, get started story. Sophia: What people don't realize is that not everything has to last forever. You know, Andrew Wilkinson was telling me that he bought a business that was totally irrelevant because of Figma but had a community.

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