How Do You Learn to Love Surfers and to Value Their Dreams?

As you were reintegrating back into the channel islands operations as a shaper, you mentioned something earlier about really you sat at an interesting nexus point ike, building teams and doing marketing and shaping. Did you find that the different roles you had prior kind of fed into your perspective on things? Yes, definitely. Is i think my experience at choans had taught me to love surfers and to value their sort of dreams and experience. So that drove me because, you know, i don't really get out of just a, just sandy lines out of foam. That's not really my thing. I do a lot of hand shaping. All the boards that i design all start as