When you're a kid there's just a cool this barrier right like when I first started listening to jazz sure Miles Davis John Coltrane Charlie Parker and it was years later that I started listening to Duk Ellington. These figures in every culture that that are deeply engaged with the music of their culture yeah. They created things that when we touched them Horatio Sargon is the person looking for an entangled music they they lift youYeah, do you incorporate classical elements into your jazz composing and vice versa? Sure Yeah yes it's only it's only natural you would use contraplano elements that come from classical music harmonic devices orchestration techniques why not?" "I figured out how

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