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How to solve climate change and make life more awesome

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

CHAPTER

The Conversation Is Pure Pain, Right?

Ezra: As a technocrat, I believe in a carbon tax. But between the environmentalism of less and the economists telling you everything, all your energy is going to get more expensive,. The conversation is pure pain. Saul Griffith: Fannie Mae and the Federal Housing Authority and making mortgages available to 70%, 80% of American families was an all-inclusive effort.

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