When Sergio was on to debating royalties and he was totally market-based, drive to the lowest price, you've got to find a way to win. So instead of penalizing people, be like, all right, well, as an artist, it's like if you want first dibs, like my new collection, you should be paying royalties. I think ultimately the system that might make sense would be something like the asset could be traded without royalties.

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