Is It Worth It?

i love to hear just some of your history, how this has borne fruit in disciples. So i was co past one with mark stuart for, ah, about five years. Have you seen it as they just say, really masty things? Ae terwis, that's happened to a few of em, yes. And so the idea is, ok, sure, maybe they're correct, but when you atually lead a congregation through these things, or even individuals, disciple them through all the difficulties, does it actually bear fruit? Or does it just frustrate people and is it? Are they always just going to sit there with tilted heads?