i found it interesting that you actually were planning an entirely ent career coming out of school, and life had other plans. You now thinking about the long game. We all want to really have that long term perspective, and yet it's hard when the short term doesn't always look so good. And i think one thing that really strikes me as helpful from your work and your perspective is thinking about time frames and just setting our expectations. It takes about five years to be able to see a demonstrable difference, in a demonstrable impact.

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