Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani cover image

Surviving Dirty John w/ Debra Newell Pt. 1

Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani

00:00

I'm Not Going to Do It, but I'll Try It

Chemistry reflects familiarity or a distorted, internalized societal message around what constitutes strength. Because chemistry is so ephemeral, so hazy, it can take people to tricky or dangerous places. "I looked at my daughter, I said, I'm not going to do it," she says of dating Pops John.

Play episode from 32:02
Transcript

The AI-powered Podcast Player

Save insights by tapping your headphones, chat with episodes, discover the best highlights - and more!
App store bannerPlay store banner
Get the app