In this episode, I sat down with one of the most influential indie hackers Justin Jackson. He's a co-founder of Transistor.fm (the very platform on which my podcast is hosted!) which is a podcast hosting and analytics tool used by clients like Indie Hackers, the Vegas Golden Knights, and VH1. He also writes a newsletter, hosts a podcast called "Build Your SaaS" and runs a community called MegaMaker. In this chat, we discuss how indie developers can win in a market filled with behemoth companies by prioritizing customer service and UX design. We also touch on the power of building "calm" companies and the freedom it allows, how to check the water (look for demand) before creating new startups and so on. Justin is a brilliant thinker and a wonderful person that I enjoyed learning from. Thanks for listening!