It was an able interview, maybe, ah, my favorite interview of all time, just because i enjoyed talking to him so much. And the level of humility just incredibly a self effacing. He didn't, he just didn't thake himself seriously. Et was really beautiful. It was in his office,. Theye were just workers, like laughing that there's this big interview going on and theyre i'll just work on ther computers with their air pods on. The interviewer made fun of many cameras. There were he as like, all my gosh, should we do stunts like idle jokes? But i really thought, this is, this is the posture that, ah, well