I think the importance of universalism, in otherit seems to me to be absolute, the key o this political moment. And universalism is something to which you can come from by different roots. Universalism makes a big bat not an empathy, which is too soft, but just simply on the fact that we can actually imagine what it is like to be some one else. We won't rebuild universalism unless we can begin to trust each other, that we can know what other people feel and have lived.

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