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The Fourth Pillar of Leadership
Sally Kohn: I want to land on the fourth pillar of leadership that you explore. And this idea that we should always be students. You touched on a lot of important things here, but the one that I want to just explore a bit is how we start again when things fall apart. If we're ambitious people and we have big visions for the change that we want to enable and to see, we're going to fail. She says it's not whether you will fail or have setbacks because you inevitably will. The question is how you can reframe the setbacks and how you can remain strong for the long haul.
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