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Episode 54: Cathy Heller

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The Relationship Is Just Being to Being

"When we lose touch with who we really are, we rely on these qualities and our friendships as a result they become superficial," she said. "We all know real friendship. We all know what it's like to be with someone where you feel that the friendship is just heart to heart."

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