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S5, Ep8 How to Fail: Jess Phillips

How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

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How to Fail

Jess says she was always driven as a kid, certainly in childhood. She wanted to do well at school and be considered 'the brightest person in a room' But when she was a teenager, she wasn't driven by anything but snogging boys. Jess is now 37 - still very young for someone who has done some of the things she's done.

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