Speaker 1
And actually, the frequent decisions of the last 10 or 15 years or so have been excellent, more or less on this really clarifying. And I would say maximizing the federal government's understanding of the First Amendment right to freedom of religion. I'm very glad you made that point. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you made that point because there can be a kind of sense of just constant government encroachment increasing, increasing, increasing, and creeping and creeping and moving into areas where it has no business like the mayor who might tell the father not just that he's responsible for the care of his sons, but how he's supposed to do that in every area. But to realize, no, actually, our government is certainly the judicial branch has been good on this. They haven't fallen down. And so I appreciate that you saying that. However, there is, I do think, a difficulty in having the conversation that you just had because we don't use the same language for these things. The church in her social teaching tells us that there's a kind of subsidiarity that there are spheres where different forms of it and that one cannot just because it's a higher sphere in the political realm impinge on those other areas. Right. And I think that we can't have a society where there's just the state and the individual, that these, what are called sometimes mediating institutions, actually have a place in society and the government doesn't get to go around eliminating them or curtailing their authorities. And one of those would be the church. Right. So I guess what I'm saying, Father, is I don't feel like we can even have that conversation with a certain element of the populace because they don't have that language at all.