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158 - w/ Thomas Chatterton Williams "Unlearning Race"

The Fifth Column

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I'm a Distance, I Mi Lokin to You, Oh, Tum, Not the Holiday.

As a black man who's not black and unlearning racand in france, it's complicated. Race really is a, i argue this in the book, races a fundamentally like politics. All race s local. It is locally constructed. They do have a different way of conceiving race than we do here. The term race has been stricken from the constitution, from legal documents. When i'm with my family, my identity kind of racializes me in a different way than if I were japanese or  Japanese. Once you start procreating and havng kids, their identity can reach back and reshape you too. You live as an arab in France mostly

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