Introduction

This week, mike is joined by caroline bartholomew and robin cleveland, chair and vice chair of the 20 21 annual report cycle for the us. China economi and security review commission. They discussed the purpose of the commission and top line findings and recommendations from the 20 21 report. Mike: Can you tell me how you ended up on this board? I know a bit about your backgrounds, but for listeners, how do you get on to this topic of us? Chine relations? And caroline, you're the shers, right? So i guess we'll start with you.