Steve Eisenman and the Red Wings

Steve Eisenman was, uh, just like other general managers, can be silent. And we had him on and he chatted. It's not what that show is. We weren't asking about like the trade deadline or like, who are you going to trade, Stevie? Like I'm not going to sit there and ask him that. This is kind of a not easy to get Lou. You want to talk about guests that I would do backflips for it's easy.

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