I did it at the second year of a conference you and I once attended the Mastermind Talks conference yeah but I interviewed Freeway Rick Ross not the rapper Rick Ross is named after the real Rick Ross who was the largest crack dealer ever. The police had no photos of him so they were never able to catch him until many many years of looking for him that there was nobody who knew who he was even though he was the top of this huge pyramid of crack dealers. And then a few years later I think he did get caught again for something but I don't know what happened  he's fine he's not in jail so he probably didn't get probably wasn't guilty of anything,

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