A meta-analysis of over 800,000 academic papers found that longer working hours have a positive relationship with occupational health problems and higher rates of depression and anxiety. So this is the question, if the 9 to 5 causes depression, dread, fatigue, burnout, why do young people feel psychologically pressured to submit to it? And we have a guest to explain this a little bit in just a second. We're talking about what? And Erin providing commentary on the cat she's looking after.