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‘Humane’ with Samuel Moyn

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The Bidin Presidency

At the end of your book, you talk about a tinge of optimism that may the culture is changing. You say there seems to be evidence in what people say and in some votes that congress has taken - but it's early days. And how do you ascess the bidin presidency so far in that dimension? I do think there's there surmounting evidence, but it'm early days, so i think, you know, as in so many other respects, the trump presidency was catalytic.

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