Getting a Following Is a Game of Longevity

"I see all these motherfuckers doing these videos now. We're sitting in front of a microphone like they're on a podcast when there's not even a fucking podcast," he said. "This is years and years and years of anything." He says TikTok can be a great way to build a following, but it could also be Chinese spyware. 'The journey that you're on is going to produce the ultimate version of you'