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Kubernetes vs Cycle?
Kubernetes has become the de facto standard and it has won that trace, but if not Kubernetes, what else? I think to summarize the question. We're almost a little too early with our kind of all-in-one solution that we've come up with. And so one of the things we changed early on is making it so that users can directly put in their API keys for multiple clouds. But at the end of the day, they own that infrastructure.