How to Get Better in Recovery?

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I'm curious if you have any theories about why some people are able to make these sort of big changes and others aren't. Like, why am I sober? But so many people I know are dead. And I don't think it's because I'm better, right? So there's some mysterious stuff going on. You know, I always say ours is a God who waits and who am I not to wait? In recovery, they say it takes what it takes. It can be the birth of a son, the death of a friend, a long stretch in prison. The ones that are always sort of the most heartbreaking for me are the people who, at least in recovery,

Father Gregory Boyle is an American Jesuit priest and the founder of Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles, the largest gang-intervention, rehabilitation, and reentry program in the world. He has received the California Peace Prize and been inducted into the California Hall of Fame. In 2014, the White House named Boyle a Champion of Change. He received the University of Notre Dame’s 2017 Laetare Medal, the oldest honor given to American Catholics. He is the acclaimed author of Tattoos on the Heart, Barking to the Choir, and his latest book, Forgive Everyone Everything.

Fabian Debora is the artist and illustrator of the book, Forgive Everyone Everything. His work has been showcased in solo and group exhibitions throughout the US and abroad. Fabian served previously served as a counselor and the Director of Substance Abuse Services & Programming and a mentor at Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles and is now the Executive Director of Homebody Art Academy.

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Father Greg Boyle & Fabian Debora and I Discuss How to Find Hope and Kinship