The US and Ukraine's Strategic Decision to End the War

From the American perspective again they would prefer not to see the Ukrainian forces depleting themselves on a target that they think is much more symbolic than it is meaningful to the conduct of the war do you imagine what a diplomatic end to this war could look like? Shane Harris covers intelligence and national security at the Washington Post. The spring offensive could be so instructive to that outcome because I mean let's say I mean Ukraine performs magnificently and in and Russia just suffers a series of humiliating defeats with Putin really feels his back against the wall how does that change Putin's calculus also doesn't make him want to lash out even more?"