"We cannot be building transition patways without looking at reality and realistic data, otherwise we we are going to be deeply disappointed ind everyone who's trying to really make take action," she says. "What is realistic and within our control at this point? What are the wild cards with regard to technology, or the time horizons that we need to transition?" She adds: 'There's a desire to reach net zero 20 50. It has to be public, private partnerships'

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