When I work with clients and they're struggling with an nihilism, I will say like there are a lot of things that are of our control. And so first thing we have to do is what can give you meaning? What does feel true to you? When I lay a bunch of values in front of you, what hits you? And then being mindful of how do I actually practice those values? That can be a place to start for some people. Another work I do with people too is talking about radical acceptance,.

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