I think he's a savant when it comes to communication and, and he's hilarious. He's a classic demagogue demagogue is, are they're not stupid? They're talented people. And I think if we don't address and fix the underlying trend, even if Trump doesn't win in 24, or, you know, even after he's gone, there'll be another demagogue. Maybe it's on the left. Who knows? Even if the woke movement, people finally get sick enough of it and start actually speaking out and saying this is not social justice. This is not progressive. It's bad for the causes that it's supposed to represent."

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