The Different Types of Management Elites in the United States

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David Frum: Why is it that this group seems to be both more deeply influential on society today and perhaps more out of touch with ordinary people today either than in the past? He says they lack two characteristics of a good ruling class which is what they are. "They're not snobs," he says, "they don't acknowledge that they got to where they are." The idea of meritocracy is so strong that if you're born into the upper middle class then you think oh look what i did on the basis of my own efforts right why can't everybody be like me?" 'This is really a phenomenon of the post-cold war period having this puritanical elite which

Michael Lind is a writer and professor of the practice at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin. He is the co-founder of the think tank New America and the author of The New Class War: Saving Democracy From the Managerial Elite and, most recently, Hell to Pay: How the Suppression of Wages is Destroying America.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Michael Lind discuss whether one’s stances towards free trade, taxation, and workers’ rights are still a reliable predictor of voters’ broader political identity; why Lind, though he supports many economically progressive policies, is often classed as a conservative; and whether efforts to rebuild labor power and reinvigorate national industrial policy will succeed in improving the economy for ordinary people.

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