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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(02:08) Exec Departures
(03:47) How the Decision-Making Process Happens in Executive Departures
(04:49) The Continuum of Executive Departures
(05:57) The Ideal Scenario
(06:42) The Challenges of Replacing Executives
(09:03) The Compensation Aspect of Executive Departures
(10:59) The Controversy Around Executive Severance Packages
(16:06) The Biggest Golden Parachute
(22:11) The Concept of Garden Leave
(23:40) Understanding Single Trigger vs Double Trigger Clauses
(25:41) Understanding the Double Trigger
(26:03) Kelli's Experience with Double Trigger at Looker
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(28:57) Common Positions to Get Axed
(29:30) The Importance of Parity Among Executives
(31:30) The Role of Employment Agreements
(39:22) The Process of Firing a CEO
(45:45) How to Handle Being Fired as an Executive
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