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Where Are You in the Hydrogen Wars?
I think hydrogen is going to be very important for us. It's not yet clear exactly where we need it. But I think the climate change committee, our work suggests that we need an energy system where about 20% of our energy might come from hydrogen in 2050. That lines up pretty closely with McKinsey's assessment of about 18% globally by 2050. And also we're starting to see some really interesting work looking at how efficiently can we run a modified diesel engine on hydrogen. So I think we will see some hydrogen in road transport. But I'm absolutely with David that if we could do it with electricity, it is more efficient use of energy.