Scott: A lot of early stage startups are spending way more money on AWS for their development environment than they are for the actual customer serving environment. And so you want to just make sure that the big thing I just see people make this mistake. They, they show up to a VC pitch and they've got a 20% gross margin when really they should have something like 80%. Scott: Being able to walk through this model and speak to it credibly is important.

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