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Do Flowers Have Bees or Flowers Have Flowers?
I view the relationship between humans and memes as probably an oversimplification, but maybe a little bit like the relationship of flowers and bees. Do flowers have bees or do bees in a sense have flowers? And the answer is it is a very, very symbiotic relationship in which both have semi-independent roles that they play. So with memes in human minds, our brains are clearly the petri dishes in which memes are either propagated or not propagated,. Get mutated or don't get mutated. They are the venue in which competition plays out between different memes.