LZ: I love talking to geologists. They're like very, they're very chill, cool people. LZ: The perspective they have is they're like, everything is changing all the time. And yet I don't see any of it in real time. He says he's been surprised at how there are some things that are observable and not always clear-cut. "I was really fascinated with the parts of John McPhee's book, Control of Nature"