We're doing it the wrong way, he says. We need practical people who are both optimistic but realistic about whatw need. The problem is we actually have the illusion that these people are much more populous than they are. And so i actullythink john hip has references ere shown o some ofthe research that shows, i think, i far left, it's about eight per centor or rightt six % and then everything else. It feels like it's ike split 50 50 politically,. But it's actually much smaller than we think. Thut they're much more vocal. And i think that that's the mean thing to contend with in society for future generations. I

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