How Does That Conversation Break Open?

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Ramona had the boldness to speak up. She said with her heart pounding, you told Mrs. Larson that I'm a nuisance. When did I say that? The day I got egg in my hair, said Ramona.Mrs. Whaley frowned, thinking, why Ramona, I can recall saying something about my little show off but I meant it affectionately. And then she says, I wasn't showing off. I was just trying to crack an egg on my head like everyone else.

We've talked about National Treasure Beverly Cleary on the show before, but we haven't spent time with her most indelible character, one Ramona Quimby. Recorded on the eve of Craig's new-dadhood, we're joined by TV critic and parenting expert Kathryn VanArendonk to discuss yard apes, sick days, and how differently the book hits from the other side of the parent/kid divide.

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