Navigating Complexity: The Future of Risk Assurance

In this episode of Fraudish, Kelly sits down with the one and only Matt Kelly to talk all things compliance… and trust us, it’s more than just rules and regulations!

We kick things off with a big question: Do you need to be a lawyer to work in compliance? The answer? Well… it depends. (Yep, we said it.) But this convo goes far beyond JD requirements. Matt shares his take on how the evolving political landscape is quietly shaping the compliance profession—and why organizational culture matters now more than ever.

Whether you’re already in compliance, considering the field, or just want to understand how risk fits into the bigger picture, this episode delivers fresh insights and real talk. Because while rules may change, risk is forever.

We cover:

• Why the "Do I need a JD?" debate in compliance is the wrong starting point
• How shifting political climates influence compliance functions
• The role of culture and change management in today’s orgs
• Why compliance isn’t just about following the rules—it’s about understanding risk

🧠 A thoughtful, timely conversation with one of the sharpest voices in the industry.
Connect with Matt:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkellycompliance/
Radical Compliance:

https://www.radicalcompliance.com/about/

https://www.radicalcompliance.com/resources/

https://www.radicalcompliance.com/2024/08/05/cco-compensation-update/

Resources Mentioned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_to_Great

https://heathbrothers.com/books/made-to-stick/

https://www.intentionalintegrity.com/robert-chesnut