The Disadvantages of Class in Our Culture

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Dublin is one of the things that I miss like most about Dublin. The way people speak to each other and how importance is placed on crack. When I go home now I'm actually like that side of me has become kind of dulled. It's not up sharp you can't take it anymore, he says. "I feel like probably a lot of people listening to this are understanding me for the first time"

Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.

Producer Note: You'll notice a slight change in Katherine's audio in the second half of the podcast. This is just due to a necessary 'source switch', where we had to change where her recording was coming from. Your ears will adjust very quickly but apologies for the ever so slight dip. Thank you!

This week Katherine talks to Emma Dabiri, author of Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next.

What begins as a conversation about Emma’s new-found commitment to appreciating all the seasons - not just summer - becomes something else entirely. Emma is one of our most agile thinkers and fearless speakers, and soon she is talking about everything from race and class to how we should think about the world right now. A thread of belonging runs through it all - how we seek and find it, how complicated our identities have become, and why it matters.

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