You're Going to Succeed Like That First Time, You've Got to Get Married

"The first time that i really did stand up was a church. And when i hear about like brandy and all these people that came from, you know, the gospel churches, and they're singing and they'r shining," she says. "I just think there's something so interesting that's so many, to use your word, so many cats come out of the kind of way which's a little bit safe."