I mean you call it jobism in the book in some ways just as bad as sexism and racism you know this idea that we are our jobs. It's hard for I mean doctors spent their 20s becoming this this thing. You know they spent their 30s paying for it. And everybody calls them doctor and gives them a little bit of respect maybe not their administrators but everybody else gives them respect. We have to admit it to somebody really can initiate a process of reclaiming that self that we all know is inside us. That's been there all along wanting to live wanting to express.

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