Is There a Similar Dynamic in the National Security Council?

I wonder if there is an especial dominance at the n. S c for with a similar dynamic th you just described. Its really hard to read the pigeon entrails the nc right now, in part because there's been so much personnel turn over. Many of the military officers who came in with mike plane are now gone. And you now see the debate that you talk about, i think, empowered state department versus the pentagon.