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I Was a Conscientious Objector, and I Was in an Antiopartat Protest Rock Band
When you were in south africa under partide, you were actually involved in efforts to oppose t it. I was a conscientious objector, which meant, if i stayed in the country, i would have been put in jail for six years. The head of the sociology department at my university was assassinated by the government on his doorstep. Student organizers would disappear from campus and come back a couple weeks later having been tortured. And so i came here thinking that i was leaving this absolutely retrograde, her oppressive place that south africa was to come to the ideal but that i have had of america. So that's been, that's been interesting, just for me personally, navigating all