I don't think any journalist of any kind could ever accept an ultimatum where you're forced to apologize for something you believe or you leave the job. I was told I had to leave and by six o'clock, but evening I was gone. And I do think it's a form of censorship. So when I see people saying there's no canceled culture, I'm like, well, there's certainly a lot of people and much lower runs of the ladder who are genuinely getting forced out of jobs. Well, you never shut up. No, I don't think it's my experience. It's necessarily about being told you can't speak, but it is about being forced

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