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RunOut #106: Taylor Swift and Walldies. Plus: Ontario’s Climbing Nightmare

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The Absurdity of Conservation Arguments

Climbers don't just wander around the desert, willy-nilly. The idea that we're all out there crisscrossing these pristine spots is just not real. There's another like 100,000 acres, 100,000 square miles of desert that does not receive impact from climbers. Climbers are wired for efficiency, right? You, I don't know about you, but I take the same way to the cliff every time.

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