Export Controls in the Cold War

China has we really built themselves into this system where they do a lot of the production and sort of um and packaging. We're trying to get our allies on to make this not just a unilateral export controlled but a multilateral thing, he says. The game right now is to try to get like the Japanese and the Dutch and maybe the South Koreans other their little washi washi to help us strangle China's ability to leapfrog in these technologies so that's it's a question of how successful will be whether China will be able to do an end run around them.

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